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A caller says they need a sponsor for a cigarette, and Barth answers with his own current quit-smoking attempt: he admits he is not ready yet, jokes about needing Zin as a sponsor, and explains he picked up nicotine pouches as his alternati

After the caller talks about being three months clean from cigarettes and the benefits of quitting, Barth brings it back to his own struggle: quitting drinking was sudden and decisive, but smoking has been harder, especially the coffee ciga

After the caller says a friend moved from cigarettes to vaping, Barth says he does not want to vape and shares one of his own smoking triggers: watching old documentaries where everyone is smoking makes cigarettes look cool again.

Barth shares that he used to think he was hiding his smoking, until he went to church to sing and became embarrassed when people noticed the cigarette smell.